I'm a sure fan of Robin -- particularly Jason Todd -- but I think that bringing in either Robin or Batgirl (or Batwoman and Bathound for that matter ) would automatically send the films plummeting into the dust bin. The films are supposed to be about Batman; not Robin, not Batgirl, not anyone else.

If a different director wants to make a movie completely outside of what Chris Nolan and Christian Bale have already worked on, and they want to make Batman and Robin the focus, and they manage to do a good job of it, then sweet! But for the moment, I think bringing Robin into the Batman Begins/Dark Knight movies will just kill them.

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oh but not dick grayson. as the hunt for batman goes on, so does the loss of batman's/bruce's humanity. dick grayson is the son that bruce didn't deserve, but the son that he needed; grayson was found to be the only one to have preserved bruce's humanity.

the thing with the dick grayson/robin matter in movies is that the studio will try to push robin being on screen too soon. the only way it'll work is if dick grayson is introduced early on, and robin is introduced in the last act. maybe like harvey's transformation into two face. and robin shouldn't even be fighting. he should be in the cave doing computer work, or serving as a monitoring guy(like fox in dark knight).

that's my take on it. but i know neither nolan nor bale want robin. it comes to my surprise that dark victory is bale's personal favorite, dark victory's focus is on robin. why the hate bale???

That's a very interesting take on Robin, I have to say. I would love to see that in a movie, but not the Batman Begins/Dark Knight related ones. Personally, I'm already more than pleased with what Chris Nolan and Christian Bale have done with them, and I look very much forward to the next one in the series.

Still, to each his own. We can all only hope for what we want. And I don't think Christian Bale necessarily hates Robin's character, unless you read something that I didn't where he specifically stated such. I just think that neither he nor Nolan want Robin in the films.

You ought to be looking forward to the Teen Titans film supposedly coming out in 2009. They're focusing on Dick Grayson, although he's going to be Nightwing and not Robin.

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Why does DC Comics seem to hate its own characters? They're always either trying to make someone miserable and angsty by putting them through unnecessary trauma, or they're trying to kill them.

haha bale said he'd strap himself down and refuse to go to work if robin was in the next one. so no robin. this is probably a good thing, i mean after the likes of schumacher's films..but i still think robin deserves one more chance.

is that teen titans movie for real? sounds cool to me. first nightwing on film.

Yeah, it's supposed to come out in 2009 at some point. I just hope to the gods it doesn't have Starfire in it.

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Why does DC Comics seem to hate its own characters? They're always either trying to make someone miserable and angsty by putting them through unnecessary trauma, or they're trying to kill them.

Interesting design, was the robin symbol (not the R in a circle) supposed to be part of the costume? The red bird that looks abit like Robin's symbol from Batman and Robin?

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yep. i think it looks cool, but others have said it clashes with the R. but i don't care, i still think it looks cool.

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I love it, but i still dont get the double symbol. The R looks like a button now lol

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good. he should be able to take it off, and use it as a shuriken circle thing.

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